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pjbrown 2018-10-14 12:31 AM

聯名物業-order for sale

我想問如果我有一個聯名物業,我想賣,而我朋友不想賣,我是不是可以落一個 order for Sale ? 之後有什麼手續和過程需時幾耐?

午模終結者 2018-10-14 05:28 AM

長命契需各業主同意簽名才可賣, 單方面不能出售, 分權契就可以賣自己份額

pjbrown 2018-10-14 09:44 AM

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長命契需各業主同意簽名才可賣, 單方面不能出售, 分權契就可以賣自己份額 [/quote]
咁可吾可以向法庭申請落 order for sale , 要求賣出單位?

午模終結者 2018-10-14 11:38 AM

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咁可吾可以向法庭申請落 order for sale , 要求賣出單位? [/quote]


除非好特殊情況,例如對方不能自我控制,沒意識等由專業醫生診斷報告,你再向法庭申請

pjbrown 2018-10-14 12:07 PM

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除非好特殊情況,例如對方不能自我控制,沒意識等由專業醫生診斷報告,你再向法庭申請 [/quote]
咁如果對方吾肯賣,又是一個正常人,咁是不是無辨法可以賣出單位呀?

午模終結者 2018-10-14 05:32 PM

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咁如果對方吾肯賣,又是一個正常人,咁是不是無辨法可以賣出單位呀? [/quote]


冇辦法,鬥長命

今天懷舊的水樽 2018-10-14 05:34 PM

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冇辦法,鬥長命 [/quote]
所以又叫做長命契:smile_o12:

pjbrown 2018-10-14 06:59 PM

有律師同我講話可以做 order for sale, 咁是不是他騙我?

111x111=12321 2018-10-14 09:06 PM

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我想問如果我有一個聯名物業,我想賣,而我朋友不想賣,我是不是可以落一個 order for Sale ? 之後有什麼手續和過程需時幾耐? [/quote]我唔覺你可以有order for sale, 太"遠", 官理得你.
E.g.離婚要分舊錢出去, 但無cash, 另一方又唔肯(無錢)出半份錢要晒層樓, 你想要我又想要住(有名有權), 官話: order to sale, 分錢!

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你聯名物業, 單方面做動作拆契便"可以".:):victory:
便有全權賣您的半份 (要有人買)

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pjbrown 2018-10-14 10:25 PM

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我唔覺你可以有order for sale, 太"遠", 官理得你.
E.g.離婚要分舊錢出去, 但無cash, 另一方又唔肯(無錢)出半份錢要晒層樓, 你想要我又想要住(有名有權), 官話: order to sale, 分錢!

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你聯名物業, 單方面做動作拆契便"可以".:):victory:
便有全權賣您的半份 (要有人買) ... [/quote]
明白,咁即是無野可以做到

111x111=12321 2018-10-14 10:44 PM

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明白,咁即是無野可以做到 [/quote]

你大貪想全個單位賣晒的話, YES, 你無野可以做到.

基本法保障私有產權, 你不能無拿拿強賣別人東西.

pjbrown 2018-10-15 12:14 AM

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你大貪想全個單位賣晒的話, YES, 你無野可以做到.

基本法保障私有產權, 你不能無拿拿強賣別人東西. [/quote]
我意思是:賣左之後兩份分可以?

30902018HKG 2018-10-15 01:53 AM

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愛國人 2018-10-15 03:06 AM

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錯。可以向法庭申請強行賣全個單位。Ben Yu 做法官判過可以。

[url=https://psiluvyou228.wordpress.com/2011/12/06/partition_ordinance/]https://psiluvyou228.wordpress.com/2011/12/06/partition_ordinance/[/url]

LIU CHUNG HANG AND OTHERS v. LIU CHUNG LEUNG ALFRED (HCMP 1255/2007)


20.  In all the circumsta ... [/quote]
師兄, 樓主case同你post嘅完全兩回事, 所有人係繼承此物業屬親人遺產, 而原告亦係海外居住, 法庭判決係想各人公平得到該遺產, 所以下令出售物業
3.  The plaintiffs are related to the defendant.  The four of them came to own the property as tenants-in-common as a result of a vesting assent made on 18 April 2000 by the executor of their aunt, Madam Liu Kam Tai, who passed away on 22 October 1991.

4.  The plaintiffs are all resident overseas.  They have not derived any benefit from the ownership of the property and now seek an order for its sale.  Mr Lam, who appears for the plaintiffs, produced a draft order, the terms of which have been explained to the defendant.

30902018HKG 2018-10-15 03:11 AM

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天真小傑 2018-10-15 03:11 AM

同朋友聯名買物業。。。點會用長命契。。。。。:lDD_004:

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愛國人 2018-10-15 03:27 AM

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有乜嘢分別?Ben Yu 嘅講法好簡單,就係可以強迫所有人賣晒全個單位再分錢:-

15. The authorities in this area were usefully summarised by Recorder Fok, SC in Wong Chun Kei Johnny and others v Poon Vai Ching and others, HCMP 4322 of 20 ... [/quote]
1)兩人購買物業係自願方式共同擁有
2)遺產係按遺囑或遺產條例給予各人, 若各人不肯賣又沒佔用單位對部份人不公平.
而被告長期佔用單位又不肯出售, 法庭判決即使出售對被告影響不大亦有賺錢能力

4.  The plaintiffs are all resident overseas.  They have not derived any benefit from the ownership of the property and now seek an order for its sale.  Mr Lam, who appears for the plaintiffs, produced a draft order, the terms of which have been explained to the defendant.
5.  The defendant resists the application.  He did not wish to sell the property and wished to continue living there.  He said that if the property were sold, he would have no where to live.  He told the Court that he is self-employed as a trader in garment and did not have a stable income.  His wife is a shipping clerk and they have a 9-year old child.  In reply, Mr Lam pointed out that if the property is sold, the defendant should be able to share about HK$1,000,000 from the proceeds, and since both the defendant and his wife are capable of earning an income, the sale of the property should not create any hardship.  On his part, he fairly pointed out that unless the Court orders a sale, the plaintiffs would be deprived of any benefits out of the co-ownership of the property, but would nevertheless have to share in the burden.

天真小傑 2018-10-15 03:41 AM

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冇所謂㗎!

“(1) A co-owner has a basic right to rid himself of the shackles of co-ownership and ask for an order for partition or sale if he has no other remedy.”

https://psiluvyou228.wordpr ... [/quote]


即係要打官司?

111x111=12321 2018-10-15 07:00 AM

邊隻傻瓜亂按制;P

111x111=12321 2018-10-15 07:10 AM

傻瓜一直抄新聞亂發帖,  現升級抄字亂解答, 推自己.:smile_30: :smile_39:

「強迫[u]所有[/u]人」! :smile_14: :smile_51:

111x111=12321 2018-10-15 07:18 AM

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除非好特殊情況,例如對方不能自我控制,沒意識等由專業醫生診斷報告,你再向法庭申請 [/quote]
不用「好特殊」, 欠錢就係.  (合乎比例大舊錢, 搞一輪發覺只有郁層樓)
如上面離婚例要分錢而無CASH

無拖無欠, 有人改變衫衷(如樓主想自己部分變現), 基本法保障了co-owner產權, 止於拆契.
有欠錢, 在憲法公平的保障下, 才賣樓.

30902018HKG 2018-10-15 08:00 AM

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pjbrown 2018-10-15 09:50 AM

要打官司?一定要用好多錢:funk:

30902018HKG 2018-10-15 11:45 AM

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pjbrown 2018-10-15 02:30 PM

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呢單嘢好似五萬搞掂,律師費係喺賣樓錢到扣嘅:-

http://www.hklii.hk/eng/hk/cases/hkdc/2007/48.html

FONG KAI PO AND ANOTHER v. YAN YEE WAN [2007] HKDC 48; DCMP 3150/2006 (15 February 2007)

HK$50,000.00 to be withheld as s ... [/quote]
你估計有得打?

愛國人 2018-10-15 03:36 PM

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[url=https://psiluvyou228.wordpress.com/2011/12/06/partition_ordinance/]https://psiluvyou228.wordpress.com/2011/12/06/partition_ordinance/[/url]

14.  In Pun Jong-sau & others v Poon Wing-kong [1979] HKLR 662, Trainor J reviewed the history of the law pertaining to partition in ... [/quote]

1. The 1st and 2nd Plaintiffs applied for an Order for Sale in respect of the subject property under the Partition Ordinance, Cap. 352. The subject property consists of a residential flat and a car parking space and is referred to in the Order that I have made herein as "the Property". The 1st Plaintiff, the 2nd Plaintiff and the Defendant are co-owners of the subject property. They are tenants-in-common holding equal shares. The Defendant also desired a sale and she did not oppose the application in substance although it cannot be said that she has positively consented to the application. Her real concern is that the minimum price of sale should be set at a higher figure. She is also reluctant to pay the costs of the proceedings.

2. From my reading of Wong Chun Kei Johnny & Others v. Poon Vai Ching, Executrix of the Estate of Poon Kam Chuen, deceased & Others, HCMP 4322/2002, 6 January 2005, I accept the following to be the applicable principles in dealing with an application of this nature:
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